From: Minty Date: 15:29 on 12 Jul 2007 Subject: iterm Func+Shift+PageUp/Down = scroll up/down a line Shift+Func+PageUp/Down = scroll up/down a page What other order dependent modifier keys exist?
From: Chris Devers Date: 15:42 on 12 Jul 2007 Subject: Re: iterm On Jul 12, 2007, at 10:29 AM, Minty wrote: > Func+Shift+PageUp/Down = scroll up/down a line > Shift+Func+PageUp/Down = scroll up/down a page > > What other order dependent modifier keys exist? To pick one at random, [shift]+[n] = capital N, or a series of NNNN's if you hold down [n]. [n]+[shift] = if holding down [n], a series of nnnn's, halted when hitting the [shift] key That's probably a silly example though, to pick the modifier after the key...
From: Luke Kanies Date: 15:47 on 12 Jul 2007 Subject: Re: iterm On Jul 12, 2007, at 9:29 AM, Minty wrote: > Func+Shift+PageUp/Down = scroll up/down a line > Shift+Func+PageUp/Down = scroll up/down a page > > What other order dependent modifier keys exist? I'm not sure this is even an iTerm thing; back when I was still using Rxvt on my mac, I had about six months when I transitioned to this MacBook where I had to press the modifiers in the right order to get a page up. I don't remember pressing them in the wrong order doing anything at all. I'm using iTerm now, though, and it seems to correctly page up regardless of the order. -- To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered. -- Voltaire --------------------------------------------------------------------- Luke Kanies | http://reductivelabs.com | http://madstop.com
From: Peter da Silva Date: 15:51 on 12 Jul 2007 Subject: Re: iterm On Jul 12, 2007, at 9:29 AM, Minty wrote: > Func+Shift+PageUp/Down = scroll up/down a line > Shift+Func+PageUp/Down = scroll up/down a page What is this "Func" key? Are you talking about a laptop? Sounds like your hate is better directed at the keyboard/laptop manufacturer or driver author.
From: Ricardo SIGNES Date: 02:01 on 13 Jul 2007 Subject: Re: iterm * Minty <mintywalker@xxxxx.xxx> [2007-07-12T10:29:15] > Func+Shift+PageUp/Down = scroll up/down a line > Shift+Func+PageUp/Down = scroll up/down a page This is a hardware hate. On some revisions of MacBook (etc) firmware, there is a quirk such that (I forget which is which): function-modifier-up is modifier-pgup but modifier-function-up is modfier-up. I believe that this is fixed by firmware. It certainly was on my MacBook, anyway, after months of annoyance.
From: Yoz Grahame Date: 02:47 on 13 Jul 2007 Subject: Re: iterm On 7/12/07, Ricardo SIGNES <rjbs-hates@xxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > * Minty <mintywalker@xxxxx.xxx> [2007-07-12T10:29:15] > > Func+Shift+PageUp/Down = scroll up/down a line > > Shift+Func+PageUp/Down = scroll up/down a page > > This is a hardware hate. On some revisions of MacBook (etc) firmware, > there is a quirk such that (I forget which is which): function-modifier-up is > modifier-pgup but modifier-function-up is modfier-up. > > I believe that this is fixed by firmware. It certainly was on my MacBook, > anyway, after months of annoyance. Ooh, while we're on keyboard-related MacBook firmware hate, can we hawk up a big shiny sputum ball of hate for the MacBook's Eject key? It's in the very top right corner of the keyboard, snug against the Delete and F12 keys. Pressing it ejects whatever's in the CD/DVD drive, which happens occasionally during normal typing due to how much of the Delete key's edge it shares. It wouldn't be so bad if there was any way to disable it in software. But, as the forums of several different bits of keyboard-remapping shareware attest, this fucker is just not remappable. At all. Which I'm most bitter about since it's the perfect place for a forward-delete key. In the meantime, I just have to make sure to not leave any disc I'm not using in the drive. -- Yoz
From: Chris Devers Date: 02:58 on 13 Jul 2007 Subject: Re: iterm On Jul 12, 2007, at 9:47 PM, Yoz Grahame wrote: > Pressing [Macbook eject key] ejects whatever's in the CD/DVD > drive, which happens occasionally during normal typing due to > how much of the Delete key's edge it shares. ...which is probably one of the recent system updates -- either 10.4.8 or 10.4.9, I forget which -- added a couple-second delay between pressing the key and actually ejecting the disc, making this much harder to do by accident. > [...] Which I'm most bitter about since it's the perfect place > for a forward-delete key. On the other hand, [fn]+[delete] *does* behave as a forward-delete. Yes, it's a keychord rather than a keypress, but at least it's there. (Usually though, I can get away with the fact that [ctrl]+[d] usually does the forward-delete, as Cocoa apps get Emacs keybindings from readline.)
From: Peter da Silva Date: 06:30 on 13 Jul 2007 Subject: Re: iterm > Ooh, while we're on keyboard-related MacBook firmware hate And a round of hate for all the firmware that isn't under the operating system's control. And a round of hate for the one-button mouse/trackpad/whatever. And the fact that you can't go "I'm going to pull the battery, so I want to *HIBERNATE* not just trust you to 'safe sleep'", you have to configure the bugger one way or the other.
From: Peter da Silva Date: 14:18 on 13 Jul 2007 Subject: Re: iterm On Jul 13, 2007, at 4:34 AM, Michael G Schwern wrote: > http://www.apple.com/downloads/dashboard/developer/deepsleepwidget.html The thought is appreciated, honestly, and I'll see if I can extract enough clue out of that to make it a menu extra or something sane. Dashboard is hateful: the user interface inspires hate from two completely different directions, and whether the API is fucked or the developers of the applets are grossly negligent I don't know... but boy are they CPU suckers. I don't use it, and I wish I could hit the "you belong dead" switch on it.
From: Andy Armstrong Date: 15:48 on 13 Jul 2007 Subject: Re: iterm Peter da Silva wrote: > On Jul 13, 2007, at 4:34 AM, Michael G Schwern wrote: >> http://www.apple.com/downloads/dashboard/developer/deepsleepwidget.html > > The thought is appreciated, honestly, and I'll see if I can extract > enough clue out of that to make it a menu extra or something sane. > Dashboard is hateful: the user interface inspires hate from two > completely different directions, and whether the API is fucked or the > developers of the applets are grossly negligent I don't know... but boy > are they CPU suckers. I don't use it, and I wish I could hit the "you > belong dead" switch on it. http://lyxus.net/gyk
From: Peter da Silva Date: 16:33 on 13 Jul 2007 Subject: Re: iterm Thanks. That looks easily reversible for the few occasions when I might need it for some applet or other that's only available as a Dashboard widget. Occasionally the hate is relieved...
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